Now a set of ideas most aspirants are very likely to stumble upon sooner or later.
Ideas are like fuel to the intellect. According to the quality of the fuel, the intellect will perform very well or very poorly. Most ideas about the Highest Reality and the universe, unfortunately, are wrong but sometimes people lift the bar to new levels of error.
(1) Everybody surely knows the currently prevailing theory about the origin of the universe through the Big Bang.
According to this theory, the universe is about 14 billion years old. At first, it was in an extremely hot and dense condition that “somehow” exploded. The theory does not explain the cause for that explosion or who/what was there before it happened. After that explosion, the universe started to expand and cool. The process of expansion continues at present, of course. During all that expansion the respective atoms were formed, which are the basis for the development of matter.
First element generated was hydrogen; next clouds of hydrogen formed stars. These stars along with the respective supernovas (a kind of star that explodes) produced the rest of heavier elements. Gravity played a crucial role at some point, allowing the stars to form galaxies, etc. through very complex processes and son on and on. This is “basically” what such a theory states. On that theory the scientists built more theories to explain the creation of the solar system, which is believed to be around 4.5 billion years old. Again, the scientists explain all through huge masses of matter, e.g. collapsing and forming the sun. The rest of matter was used to manufacture planets, asteroids, moons, etc.
There are several theories describing this, but all of them have a point in common: “Everything is related to matter doing this or that”. And after millions of years of matter doing this and that, Life finally emerged on this planet. This is what the scientists propound now, and you can see these theories on the Web, on TV and so forth.
If an aspirant thinks that he will achieve Final Liberation, viz. an actual perception of the Highest Reality, through all those current scientific theories, he is sadly wrong. That will not happen. Those theories arose from a human intellect and not from a divine one. Modern science is good at dealing with materialistic processes, but misses the target for one million kilometers when it comes to deal with non-materialistic processes. The main problem with all those theories is that they only explain a little portion of the effect (the material universe associated with space and time) but not the Cause. The Cause is generally outlined in a childish way as: “The universe came out of nothing (i.e. absolute nothing)”. But this is an absolute nonsense because “absolute nothing” cannot be proved ever as I explained in previous posts. If the question about “absolute nothing” emerged, this implies that “someone” thought about it, viz. he perceived it mentally. So, that “nothing” is not absolute because of the presence of the one thinking about it. Absolute nothing and absolute void are synonymous. All this was already proved wrong many centuries ago by the great sages of Kashmir. Absolute nothing can never be proved because if the subject-matter called “absolute nothing” arose, this implies its non-existence as “absolute nothing” due to the presence of the one who postulates it. Absolute nothing should have never been thought about, viz. perceived, in order for it to be “real” absolute nothing. For example: if someone thought about it (e.g. the scientists), that is not “absolute” nothing because of the presence of the thinkers (the scientists). This is clear enough, right?
This topic about “absolute nothing” is so moronic that is quite a joke to have scientists postulating that everything came “out of nothing” and next presenting “serious” conclusions and “complex” formulas related to the universe in expansion after the Big Bang. How to do all that in regard to an effect whose Cause is nothing? That is absolutely nonsensical. Some of them, according to my readings, seem to have fixed that obvious stupidity by putting it like this: “We do not know the Cause”. This is better than saying merely “nothing” because one does not know what it is. Anyway, if they do not know the Cause, what is the use of analyzing the “effect” (the universe)? Why? Because the conclusions will contain mistakes one way or the other, and new problems about the universe will just emerge, as there is a primordial ignorance about its Origin. My words are not only mere destructive criticism but I will present solutions now, i.e. new ways to think about the universe. One’s intellect will arrive at erroneous conclusions if the ideas are not right from the start:
The universe studied by the modern scientists emanates from the category 13 (Prakṛti or Undifferentiated matter) of the universal manifestation as postulated by Trika. I succinctly explained those categories in my post about the Process of Creation. Keep the list with the categories open for understanding what I will say from now on, please.
In fact, the entire Big Bang theory is only explaining the physical portion (categories 32 to 36) of the material universe that emanates from that category 13. The rest of categories, from the intellect (14) down to the five subtle elements, are also material but these are not subject to any “Big Bang” ever. There is no intellect, ego, mind, powers of perception, powers of action and subtle elements being produced through a Big Bang that happened several million years ago, and so on and so forth. That is not occurring. Have you perceived that you mind appeared in that way? NO. Mind simply “appeared” naturally, and every day it keeps appearing naturally with no effort on your part. On top of that, above the category 13 (Undifferentiated matter) the universe is not material. For instance: the category 12 or individual self is NOT material at all. And the notions of time and space (categories 10 and 11) are also not material. These notions will unleash time and space once the material universe starts to flow from the category 13. The first thing that emerges from the category 13 is not rocks, particles, clouds of gas, etc. but intellect, ego and mind. In other words, these three manifestations are superior to the physical portion of the universe (categories 32 to 36) consisting of atoms, molecules, bodies, etc. Am I clear? Good!
According to Trika, the physical universe emerges after the inner psychic organ (intellect, ego and mind), and the inner psychic organ emerges after the individual self, and the individual self emerges after a series of limitations located beneath the category 5 and above the category 12. These limitations include the following (look at the aforesaid chart, please): ignorance, limited activity, limited knowledge, limited will, notion of time, notion of space, plus three impurities known as “primordial impurity, impurity pertaining to ignorance, impurity pertaining to action”. These limitations and impurities lead to the mind and the mind leads to the body and physical universe… and not vice versa. The scientists, as they are mostly materialistic, trace the things exactly in reverse, as if the entire physical universe had come to produce Life after millions years cooling down, and next “somehow”, all these particles, atoms, sub-particles, etc. finally brought about a living being. In reality, things are not like that. Listen up:
The Supreme Self (Consciousness) endowed with His Power characterized by Bliss and Freedom is alone at first. It is all “I” (no universe). There is no time, no space… there is nothing but “I”. The Power of this Supreme Self starts to expand and the universe is extracted from “I”. The word “expansion” is just a way to describe the things, because there is no room for that Power to expand as the Supreme Self pervades everywhere. A better term would be “coagulation”. This initial stage of the extraction of the universe generates a great void called “Anāśritaśiva” (Śiva or the Self devoid of categories), because the Supreme Self “feels” like that: “Oh, if this universal manifestation continues, I will lose my current Bliss and Freedom”. Accordingly, He “hesitates” and that hesitation is like a great void called “Śiva without categories”, where the Self (You) rests full of His Glory right before the appearance of the universe. It is the Power of the Self who “convinces Him” to continue the process of universal manifestation, as a wife convincing a husband. Oh yes, the things get complicated, don’t they?… let us continue: Next, the Power of the Self keeps the universe in a foggy state where “I” prevails because “This” (the universe) is just being born. This is the category 3, where the Power of Will dominates as the Supreme Self “wants to manifest the universe through His Power”. The category 4 is like the previous one, but now the universe is completely outlined in the Cosmic Mind of the Great Lord. It is a stage where the Power of Knowledge dominates as the Supreme Self “fully plans the form of the universe here”. Since planning the universe is prevalent at this level, the “I” is eclipsed by “This” (the universe). The category 5 is simply the execution of all that planning. In this stage, “I” and “This” (the universe) are balanced. The Power of Action dominates here as the Supreme Self is occupied through His Power with carrying out His previous plan.
Categories 3 to 5 are divine levels beyond space, time and the rest of limitations. In short, one does not need to travel 14 billion years into the past in order to behold the origin of the universe because it is happening constantly “here”, as it were, because “here” is also a spatial concept. No human being can enter here without His Grace. Of course, the categories 1 and 2 are not really categories but the Self and His Power, who are full of Bliss and Freedom. All this is obviously not material. You can call it immaterial, spiritual, divine and so forth, but it is always beyond words. If you manage through His Grace to attain at least the category 5, oh my God, my respect to you! I am not joking. It is extremely difficult to accomplish that, but yet possible if one can overcome the impurity that appears between the categories 5 and 6: Primordial impurity (Āṇavamala). This impurity has a double aspect: Ignorance about the Self (which is overcome through His Grace only) and intellectual ignorance (which is overcome by studying scriptures). Scriptures (Trika scriptures, Tantra-s sacred to Trika and so on, of course) produce the emergence of the “pure thought” in oneself. Through this pure thought one can overcome the second aspect of the primordial impurity. There is no other way. If the process is not completely successful, you will not attain Final Liberation while living. If modern science could bring about the emergence of the pure thought, it would not be necessary to study all those scriptures. Unfortunately, these current scientists simply just do not measure up. They are mostly materialistic, with their focus all the time on the objects and not on the Subject (the Self). If you think that the objects are quite impressive, this is so because you have not realized the Subject yet. When you realize the Subject (the Self), the entire universe is not impressive any more. People impressed by objects have not yet realized their Self, no doubt about it.
After the arrival of that primordial impurity, the Self imposes more and more limitations on Himself till He becomes an atom (a spiritual atom, not a materialistic one). This is the category 12 called “individual self”. All this is not material but spiritual-divine-immaterial (choose the name). Matter starts to flow from the category 13 and its first shoot is “intellect”, its second shoot is “ego” and its third shoot is “mind”. Powers of perception and action, which include all the senses, flow from mind and ego. Next, the subtle elements come from ego too, and from these subtle elements do come the gross elements of which the entire physical universe is composed. Therefore, there was not ever a real Big Bang but rather a Coagulation of the Essence of the Supreme Self according to Trika and my own experience. This is confirmed by Yogarāja (the great disciple of Kṣemarāja) in his first introductory stanza to his celebrated commentary on Abhinavagupta’s Paramārthasāra (a very important scripture dealing with the Essence of the Highest Reality). Abhinavagupta (the Great Trika Master) is the guru of Kṣemarāja and consequently grand-guru of Yogarāja:
Cidghano’pi jaganmūrtyā śyāno yaḥ sa jayatyajaḥ|
“Glory (jayati) to the Supreme Lord (parama-īśvaraḥ) –the Unborn One (saḥ… ajaḥ) who is skillful and clever in the art (vidagdhaḥ) of playing (krīḍā) to conceal (pracchādana) His own Self (sva-ātma)–, who (yaḥ), though (api) being a compact mass (ghanaḥ) of Consciousness (cit), is coagulated (śyānaḥ) in the form (mūrtyā) of the world (jagat)!“
And this is confirmed by the experience of the reader too: when he is in wakefulness, all the objects around the Subject (the Self… viz. himself) are a coagulation of his essence, even the notion that there is “something around someone” is also a coagulation of his spiritual essence, which is not material at all. Afterwards, when he goes to bed and starts to dream, all that is his mind, which is again his essence coagulated in that way. When he enters into deep sleep, his own spiritual essence coagulates into a void. Most people only attain the level of deep sleep and they cannot go beyond that point due to the presence of the primordial impurity (Āṇavamala). Next, the reader comes back to wakefulness and the objects come up again. All that happens every day. The rest of the universe in the form of galaxies, distant planets, immense clouds of gas, etc. are a tiny portion of his “actual” universe. Those things are real too but of little relevance. Now, the scientists come with their theories and want to make the reader expand his concept of the universe to millions of galaxies, stars, planets, etc. Anyway, all those things continue being coagulations of his own essence despite more and more spheres keep appearing before him. Even if the reader comes to behold the biggest star of the entire universe, that is also a coagulation of his essence. The Subject (he himself, the Self) remains always as such. The Subject does not become bigger or smaller if the object in front of Him is bigger or smaller. The Subject remains the same size at all times. Nothing happens to the Subject even if brought face to face with the biggest object of the universe. Why? Because the Subject is not material but divine. What is divine is never impressed by what is material. There is no fuss in the case of the Subject even if he is explained that he is living in a colossal universe in expansion. It is the same, viz. all those objects are simply a coagulation of His Essence.
Besides, in order to watch all those objects, the mind and its senses are used, and these are also material because they are a product of the category 13 where matter starts to flow. As a result, all that one sees is always tainted by the limitations of these senses and mind, i.e. what one sees is real but “does not look exactly like that”. All in all, nobody will attain a real apprehension or realization of the Highest Reality through mere ordinary mind and senses. This will not occur, ever. And this is not a religious problem of the kind: “I believe or I do not believe”. By Final Liberation I always mean “realization of the Highest Reality”. When one sees the things such as they are, that is the end of the path. In order to accomplish that difficult mission, no telescope, microscope and similar devices will be useful. They are useless to realize the Highest Reality because there is always the presence of a limited mind and senses watching through those devices. Besides, the Highest Reality is not an object… not even the greatest of them… NO, it is the Subject and His Power (the Cause of the universe). If one does not apprehend the Cause, all his conclusions about the effect (the universe) will be half-true or totally wrong. Why is this topic always so difficult to understand when it is so obvious? Because the Subject is very skillful and clever in the art of playing to conceal His own Self, as the above stanza reads.
Therefore, a serious spiritual aspirant should leave scientists and their half-true theories alone. The journey to the Highest Reality is always “internal”, as it were, and through His Grace. It is not about discovering more and more objects like children playing with balls. As the Power of the Self is infinite, there is no end to the number of galaxies, clouds of gas, and even new universes emerging from such a Power. Life is too short to busy oneself with those childish plays, right? First Final Liberation and next all of us will be able to play with balls at pleasure. So, the journey is toward the Subject and not far into the past or into the future or into the outer space or into any other product of the impurities and limitations by which the Self (You) likes to cover Himself. Through the Grace of the Self who is his (of the reader) own Grace, and by studying the scriptures, a person will finally go past the primordial impurity located between the categories 5 and 6. When he arrives in the category 5, he will begin to see the things such as they are, i.e. he will begin to see the universe such as it is. After that experience, he will be allowed to keep ascending to higher and higher levels of divine Bliss till he gets a full recognition or realization of his own Self. Fire, Light, Freedom, and Glory arising from that Self-realization will reveal the Truth in the end. The Self has revealed that Truth already in all these scriptures dealing with Trika, but paradoxically now this very Self (the author of all those scriptures, viz. the reader) needs to have actual comprehension of His own obvious divinity. Oh yes, the Supreme Self is absolutely Awesome.
I like modern science, but it has its limitations. The problem with it now is that scientists begin to enter fields they are not fit for. As a result, their conclusions will be always completely wrong or half-true. For example, if they want to behold the origin of the universe, they must go past the notions of time and space and realize the Subject (themselves). Anyway, they ignore how to do that, or else they think that they need to build a space ship or a time machine or something like that. Materialistic minds are useful but they always fall short when it comes to discovering the Highest Reality. The process to follow is always the following: (1) get His Grace one way or the other, (2) study the respective scriptures in order to remove intellectual ignorance. This is the method, and I am totally sure because I have tested it myself. The nature of knowledge varies according to the level of consciousness attained by the perceiver. If the one perceiving is situated in a level of consciousness that is not the right one to get at least a glimpse of the Highest Reality, his knowledge will not be right either and, accordingly, his conclusions about such a Highest Reality will also be wrong. This is the current situation of the vast majority of modern scientists I can see on the media. Some of them even speak about the possibility of pushing the Supreme Self (the Subject) aside in order to explain the process of universal creation. In this, they show their absolute ignorance and lack of common sense, because the Supreme Self is them! If they pushed the Supreme Self aside, they would disappear too… which would not be absolutely a bad thing, hehe. Joking! In the past, religion explained all through religious processes. Now, scientists try to explain all through scientific processes. It is the same pest but of different color. Different fields of knowledge require different methods, you know. Nonetheless, as you can see His Play to conceal Himself has no limit! Glory to this Great Self!
(2) I have recently heard a very common statement: “God is Love. He always wants good things for us”.
When some people face that kind of ideas, they generally get furious because the quantity of horrible facts in this world is simply overwhelming as to indicate that God is Love and that He wants good things for us. Other people just accept the idea that God is Love and good with us the whole time, without giving second thought to the question. Others say that God simply does not exist, and even other persons establish that God is beyond this humankind, etc.
To elaborate, non-existence of God simply doesn’t exist. Some people get puzzled by having to explain to someone that God exists. They attempt to show him the miracles of the universe, e.g. a seed transformed into a big tree, the innumerable stars in the sky, the miracle known as Life, etc. However, all that is not necessary. Why? Because the very presence of the one affirming that God does not exist proves existence of God. How is this possible? Because he will not be able to explain his own existence without resorting to the concept of God. Even if he tries to explain his own existence by resorting to the Big Bang, clouds of gas, supernovas exploding, etc., he will discover that all that only explains somehow the existence of his physical body but not his own existence. One’s existence is the greatest mystery. Instead of waking up every day and start to protest for the same trifles over and over again, one should apply his attention to this question of his own existence. When this mystery is unraveled, that is Final Liberation. One has to realize his own essential nature and perceive that his own essential nature was never affected by anything at all. When one realizes that truth, he is a liberated. Nothing has ever happened to the Self, I am speaking the truth. This way of reasoning is not based on mere bookish knowledge but I realized that truth. My own Self, my true identity, has remained the same forever. This is the truth.
Coming back to the atheist, if he is intelligent enough he will notice that he cannot explain who he really is. He has no idea. And if the atheist is merely stubborn and childish, just stop arguing with him and do not waste your precious time. Intelligent atheists, when brought face to face with the fact that they cannot explain who they are, could certainly turn into spiritual aspirants in the long run. Besides, there is this concept of “God”. Where did it come from? It is a real mystery. Apparently, it was religion that introduced it… are you sure? The matter is not so simple. If that word “emerged” and “became manifest”, something happened then. Who did it? Quite a mystery! OK, that is it regarding atheists. Their denial of the Supreme Self is simply pointless because they have no idea who they are after all, and their very presence implies the presence of “Someone” whose existence are denying ignorantly.
Regarding the people who affirm that God is beyond this world, that is half-true, because the Supreme Self is both transcendent and immanent in the universe. Why? Because the universe is Him coagulated, as I taught you before. In fact, He is also “something else” apart from transcendent and immanent, as the Supreme Self is absolutely inconceivable. People placing God beyond the world attempt to explain the horrors of this world without tainting God in the process. So, all these horrors are “human-related”, while God remains completely “clean”, aloof from this calamity. Beyond the good intentions in trying to keep God “clean” that way, those people are not fully right, because the Supreme Self is transcendent, immanent and “something else too”. He is everywhere and nowhere and why not, somewhere else as well. Nobody can understand Him by using his ordinary mind, because He is simply inconceivable. God is lastly only a matter of realization and not of mere thinking.
Finally, when people get furious with the ones affirming that God is Love and wants good things for us, there is a problem because it is not clear what the other people meant by “Love” and “goodness”. Generally, I do not use those words ever because they are misleading. Why? Because the ordinary mind is prone to behaving like a frog in a well asking about the immensity of the sea: “Is it like this well? Is it like two wells? Three wells? Four wells?” and so on. In the same way, when people hear that God is Love and good, they generally think that His Love is like human love but “bigger”, or that His Goodness is like human goodness but “bigger”. It is the same story as that of the liberated ones, do you remember? As if a liberated person is only an ordinary person but “reloaded”, as a sort of superhero. Likewise, a lot of people think that divine Love and Goodness are like the ones felt and expressed by mere human beings but “reloaded”. That is not true. The ones declaring that God is Love and wants good things for us should have said: “God is Love and wants good things for us, but on His own terms”, and the problem is solved.
As the words love, good, bad, etc. are so confusing and misleading, I always prefer to omit them. This humankind has used them too much and so they are completely worn out, in my opinion.
For example, human beings usually think that life is always “something good”, but according to the Supreme Self that is not so the whole time. Thank… Him, there is death in this world too or the population would be 1 gazillion people by now. Can you see my point? And according to other people, “love” begins and ends someday, but the Self’s Love never begins and ends. This cannot be understood without actual realization of the Self, of course. In this way, there is constantly confusion with those words. Leave them alone then, OK? Good!
(3) There are other ideas around, for example: “A liberated one must not say that he is liberated. Moreover, he must not contradict what has been established in the scriptures”.
In that case, my first answer would be: “But is he a liberated one or another human being bound to another pile of stipulations?” Such ideas are usually present in this world because rarely someone stumbles upon a genuine liberated person. So, all the conclusions are constantly based on books, others’ opinions, etc. However, have they been with a liberated one? Generally they have NOT. Precisely, he is liberated because he was set free from bondage by His Grace. Now, if he has to follow rules, bondage is still around.
Elaborating: “He must not say that he is a liberated one.” Why not? Hmmmm… the usual answer is: “Because his actions must show his state.” Are you sure? Oh, that is not true at all! What if the liberated one decides not to show actions concordant with his state of Liberation? What is superior can easily delude what is inferior. So, how will the rest of people manage to trace the existence of liberated ones if all of them decide to look like mere human beings bound by ignorance, etc.? This is very easy to them, i.e. to hide their state of Liberation. They are great actors. Remember that that above stanza said that the Supreme Lord is skillful and clever in playing to hide His own Self. So, being the liberated in touch with the Supreme Power, he is able to do the same thing as the Supreme Lord. Who will be able to recognize him then? Only other liberated ones will, evidently. In this way, the topic about the liberated ones is very mysterious.
In the Fourth Way (look the term up on the Web if you are not sure what it is) something like this is said, if my memory serves me well: “A liberated person is someone who, if he starts to speak as a liberated one, nobody could understand him except another liberated one.”
In order to respond the second stipulation about him not having to contradict what has been established in the scriptures, I will begin to speak like a liberated one:
“Scriptures follow me. I do not follow any scriptures. If I say something that is not yet written in any scripture, My Supreme Power will write that in some scripture in order to keep my teachings duly backed up and truthful.”
As the reader can see, not being liberated, it is very difficult to understand that. Why? Because one usually thinks that the scriptures are “rigid” things that were written in that way and they never change at all. That is not true… and now, the mind of the reader will feel a kind of collapse, I know, which is very good. While the ordinary mental framework is kept, one cannot advance toward Final Liberation. Apparently, the scriptures are immutable but that is not true, I repeat. If the Self starts to move in that direction, as it were, all those apparently immutable scriptures will move along with Him. This is easily verifiable if you could get in touch with me personally. It is very usual that I teach something today without consulting any scriptures at all, and the next week, I discover the same teaching written in a scripture of Trika. That sounds miraculous but it is very usual in my own experience. That thing occurred, for example, with that above stanza establishing that the Supreme Lord is coagulated in the form of the universe. The “coagulation” thing emerged suddenly while I was planning this article about the Big Bang theory, some days ago, and the idea of Coagulation instead of a Bang emerged in my mind spontaneously in order to explain the universal manifestation. I had not read that stanza before. I am speaking the truth.
Explaining it all “humanly” now: Because the Self is the closest One always as He is “Oneself”. Next, the scriptures are the closest ones to Oneself. Scriptures arise from the Self and go through a complex process of manifestation till one can have them on paper or in digital format, etc. Usually, most people think that a scripture is that book or that document, but that is not true. In the highest level, the scriptures are united with the Self completely without the least difference. One level lower and the scriptures arise as something different from the Self but still united with Him. One level lower the scriptures and the Self look different and separate but only at a on the mental level. One level lower than that, and the scriptures look different and separate from the Self (You) on the physical level (e.g. books, documents in digital format, etc.). The usual conception of scriptures is the latter, i.e. they are books, documents, etc., but that is a poor conception. They are a lot more than that. Scriptures bring about the emergence of pure thought. By “pure” I do not mean “morally pure” and things like that, but “producing unity”. The pure thought, when emerged in the intellect, as it were, it brings realization of the unity of the Self with the universe. Besides, scriptures teach the intellect the right way to reason, therefore, they are extremely important.
Finally, it is the human guru, who is farther from Oneself than the scriptures. I am not speaking about physical distances, obviously. So, the way to come back Home is usually: human guru –> scriptures –> Self. A liberated person knows his own essential nature, the Self. As a result, he does not follow any human guru or even scriptures. In fact, scriptures follow him at every step, because the Power of the Self always follows the Self. This cannot be explained in a better way, I guess. It is a matter of experience, viz. Self-realization.
Additionally, there is another important question: what tradition did that liberated one follow to achieve spiritual enlightenment? In India there are, broadly speaking, two great branches: Veda-s and Tantra-s. These two traditions are very different from each other. Trika is based on Tantra-s (not on Veda-s). Therefore, even if a liberated one by Trika is asked not to contradict the scriptures, by “scriptures” Tantric scriptures are meant in his case… and not all the Tantra-s. As Tantra-s are more than two hundred books, if my memory serves me well, one must specify the set of Tantra-s held in high esteem by Trika. In this case, Trika considers only five Tantra-s as the main ones, but other six Tantra-s are also regarded as venerable, which totals to eleven Tantra-s. The first five Tantra-s enunciated here are the most important ones, while the other six are also revered: Mālinīvijaya, Vijñānabhairava, Svacchanda, Rudrayāmala and Mṛgendra; Mataṅga, Ucchuṣmabhairava, Svāyambhuva, Ānandabhairava, Naiśvāsa and Netra. Read the Tantricism page on the main website for further information. As you can see, the topic is extremely complicated and a person should know what he is doing before speaking in public or teaching his disciples. Unfortunately, more often than not, one has no idea what one is speaking about when it comes to Indian philosophies. This is specially true in the West where Miss Confusion reigns supreme.
OK, it is over for now. I will see you on my next post!